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 Post subject: Handed back to finder?
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:01 pm 
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It seems strange something so nice is handed back when I have had badly damaged gold items taken off me :g43:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... field.html



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Strange it is, lucky for him yes it is. Makes you wonder at times.



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Wow what a great article Dave and a brilliant advert for the Deus detector - everyone dreams of finding something like that and not because of the value (for me) but because of the beauty and craftsmanship and history behind it, I wonder if he can afford to pay off the landowner and keep it - I know I would :g58:



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:39 am 
I think that there are many factors when the committee decides to keep or hand back. Wouldnt it be great if someone from the TVC could explain how this part of the process works? Maybe an idea for a "Searcher" article?


  
 
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I think that there are many factors when the committee decides to keep or hand back. Wouldnt it be great if someone from the TVC could explain how this part of the process works? Maybe an idea for a "Searcher" article?

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i think maybe the present overwhelming amount of detector finds and the lack of money in the museums could mean a lot of nice finds could be getting handed back in the future :g43:



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:37 am 
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oldfossil wrote:
I think that there are many factors when the committee decides to keep or hand back. Wouldnt it be great if someone from the TVC could explain how this part of the process works? Maybe an idea for a "Searcher" article?


The TVC do not decide if an item is "kept or handed back".

The TVC facilitate the valuation not the funding or acquisition of an item.

Once valued the item is offered (at value) to the Museums network, generally local first and then nationally (relative to importance of find). If there is no expression of interest then item is disclaimed.

Likewise if a museum (local or national) expresses an interest then they have to raise the funding...if they can`t it`s disclaimed. (Hence the "pressure" for finder/landowner or both to waive their share!)

Think thats not far wrong. :g50:


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:42 pm 
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oldfossil wrote:
I think that there are many factors when the committee decides to keep or hand back. Wouldnt it be great if someone from the TVC could explain how this part of the process works? Maybe an idea for a "Searcher" article?


The TVC do not decide if an item is "kept or handed back".

The TVC facilitate the valuation not the funding or acquisition of an item.

Once valued the item is offered (at value) to the Museums network, generally local first and then nationally (relative to importance of find). If there is no expression of interest then item is disclaimed.

Likewise if a museum (local or national) expresses an interest then they have to raise the funding...if they can`t it`s disclaimed. (Hence the "pressure" for finder/landowner or both to waive their share!)

Think thats not far wrong. :g50:

Fair dues. How can an item can be disclaimed within weeks?? Or am I missing something overly obvious??? For a museum to make an offer I am guessing it would take on average 3 months ... because that is how committees work, isn't it? Hence to close this off how long does the TVC give museums to make an offer? Thanks in advance.
Please dont take offence ... its in my nature to challenge everything, particularly provenance of information and data... its in my DNA so to speak.


  
 
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According to the Daily Wail it was found last June so plenty of time to be disclaimed. The £25k value is only auctioneers hype. Our club has had items disclaimed in weeks when the FLO has advised the coroner such.


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The "Sandbach Brooch", as the PAS christened it, was found in 2011 by my good friend and detecting buddy Stan (Lobo) Cooper. It was declared treasure at inquest, went through the system and was disclaimed and returned in 2012, then went to auction. The bidding was opened at £10,000 and the hammer dropped immediately (?????) Stan was then contacted by the auctioneer asking for the brooch as he had a private buyer for it but Stan would not be allowed to be present during the negotiations (??????)
Being the man that he is, Stan refused the auctioneers "kind" offer and subsequently, as the farmer wanted to keep it, agreed a token value with him.



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Well there we go..... alls well that ends well!


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The "Sandbach Brooch", as the PAS christened it, was found in 2011 by my good friend and detecting buddy Stan (Lobo) Cooper. It was declared treasure at inquest, went through the system and was disclaimed and returned in 2012, then went to auction. The bidding was opened at £10,000 and the hammer dropped immediately (?????) Stan was then contacted by the auctioneer asking for the brooch as he had a private buyer for it but Stan would not be allowed to be present during the negotiations (??????)
Being the man that he is, Stan refused the auctioneers "kind" offer and subsequently, as the farmer wanted to keep it, agreed a token value with him.

Too much of that back room dealing going off, but I am glad the farmer got it back :g50:



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