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 Post subject: Re: Beyond Gutted...
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:25 pm 
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That is sickening :g44: we have had two club digs recently that where spoilt by this crap, and another in Sheffield called off because the dig organiser checked it out and that was also covered in it? It is beyond belief that we now have thousands of dedicated detectorists but only a few hundred bothered signing :g43: And I also believe someone who is against detecting is behind this :g58: if you can,t beat them with fair means we will beat them with foul springs to mind :g51:



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A few toxic samples taken would probably put a stop to it, short term at least, so keep your eyes open for stuff that shouldn't be there :g62:


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just have to stick with pasture that hasnt been polluted with green rubbish otherwise you are wasting your time


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personally i blame the TV progs that have exposed the business on valuable artifacts being found, and the public think its common to make them ,so you now see a fouling up of the matrix.
a lot may be put down to envy ,so they throw a spanner in the works .


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Don't you think it's more likely that somewhere down the line the farmer is making money out of it ? I know some have to pay for it to be dropped but is that cheaper than the fertilizer it replaces, and can they claim a grant for it?
We think of farms as lovely green open spaces but in reality they're just another business to the farmer, it has to show profit.


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just have to stick with pasture that hasnt been polluted with green rubbish otherwise you are wasting your time


That idea don't work buddy I have had three pasture permissions with this crap spread on it... You can see it lying on the surface... :g44: :g51: :tears:



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I tell all my farmers about the crap that is being spread on fields on other farms,and they ain't impressed .
Just got to keep spreading the word.
Don't forget. They see all their farming mates at the cattle markets etc.
It's a wonder the paper, Farmers Weekly has not done a full story on this stuff yet,or countryfile :g43:


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I think if the truth is known this is actually illegal dumping :g43: did not one company get a fine for spreading this stuff? it is supposed to have all the metal and crap filtered out before it gets to the fields but some recycling firms find it makes more money just grinding it up and selling it on :g44:



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One of our farmers spread some used cattle bedding on one of our better fields. Fair enough, should be rich in plant food. However, it was minced Ikea waste, full of the flat pack connecters, fist size lumps of heavy ali, not good at all. Farmers are using this for animal bedding and not realising just what it contains. When he saw the scrap bucket he was not very impressed at all.



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We tend to forget ,as Puffin points out, the farmers don`t "see" what is in the mashed MDF....I showed one of ours the scrap and he returned the next load.
Furthermore there is an allowance of "non degradable" product in the compost mixes....something like 0.01% which doesn`t sound much but in load of tens of tons is a lot of scrap.

People who believe this stuff is being spread as an "anti detecting" measure are living in cloud cuckoo land. Its purely a cost saving measure to negate landfill tax, provide it at low cost or free to Farmers as PAS100 approved compost......job done.

SHOW THEM WHATS IN IT.....FARMERS CARE ABOUT THEIR LAND!!!


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We tend to forget ,as Puffin points out, the farmers don`t "see" what is in the mashed MDF....I showed one of ours the scrap and he returned the next load.
Furthermore there is an allowance of "non degradable" product in the compost mixes....something like 0.01% which doesn`t sound much but in load of tens of tons is a lot of scrap.

People who believe this stuff is being spread as an "anti detecting" measure are living in cloud cuckoo land. Its purely a cost saving measure to negate landfill tax, provide it at low cost or free to Farmers as PAS100 approved compost......job done.

SHOW THEM WHATS IN IT.....FARMERS CARE ABOUT THEIR LAND!!!


I have spent all my life in farming, and yes if a farmer can find a cheaper or free alternative to expensive chemical fertilisers, he will.but if he as knowledge of the crap that's In this green waste, he wouldn't use it as after ceral crops they let their stock animals onto the land.and believe me no farmer worth his salt, wants their animals eating this waste, as the loss and cost though vets. Fees,out weights the small benefits. So I would show the farmer what's been added to his soil. Write a letter to the farmers weekly, horse and hound weekly,telling them what you are finding ,that way you are getting your finding and concerns to the people that can do something about it.


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Perhaps it is the land owners who should be targeted and educated. If it wasn't for them agreeing to take the wretched stuff, the government would have to find somewhere else to put it.


I rang my local farmer who was doing exactly this because it was adjacent to my house, his answer was...mind your own business.


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