Livery buttons
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Re: Livery buttons
Hi Kev
Posted on a different thread and now moved it here so you could grab the image it you wish.
All the best
Garry
Posted on a different thread and now moved it here so you could grab the image it you wish.
All the best
Garry
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Re: Livery buttons
You're a gent Garry For those who didn't see the other thread it is for Richard De Beauvoir, Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk.
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Re: Livery buttons
hi kev a great looking button this with a cockerel on the front any info would be great
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Re: Livery buttons
A difficult one without knowing the area found as there are so many possibilities. Even then it may not be possible
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kev it was found in wiltshire if this helps
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Re: Livery buttons
any help appreciated please Kev.
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Re: Livery buttons
Apparently the Queen is/was the only female allowed to have their coat-of-arms on a "shield"....so looks like the coat-of-arms on the button belong to a female.
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Re: Livery buttons
Hi Kev, I found a livery button yesterday near Whitchurch and was able to identify it as a Griffin button, family name of Bland from your website. Just wanted to say thanks very much, your website is really useful. Does anyone know how I might be able to find out any more about the family and how it links to the livery? Google isn't being much help.
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Post a pic of the button on here.tomcon wrote:Hi Kev, I found a livery button yesterday near Whitchurch and was able to identify it as a Griffin button, family name of Bland from your website. Just wanted to say thanks very much, your website is really useful. Does anyone know how I might be able to find out any more about the family and how it links to the livery? Google isn't being much help.
...Dave
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Re: Livery buttons
I think it's a DUGDALE family livery button.....
Click Here (then click "Dugdale" to view details).
Seems "John Marshall DUGDALE, Esquire, J.P., D.L., of Llwyn, Llanfyllin" would have been closest to the findspot...about 35 mile away.
Fairbairn's example of that crest shows the "cross moline" above the collar (and most of his descriptions aren't specific about that) but I think it should actually be below the collar (like on the button) and as in this James Broughton DUGDALE (of Wroxhall Abbey, Warwick) crest description...
"a gryphon's head erm., wings endorsed erminois, gorged with a collar az., therefrom pendant a cross moline gu."
...and also as shown on this DUGDALE (of Crathorne Hall in Yorkshire) crest.....
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Re: Livery buttons
Thanks DiOz that's really interesting. I was going by this page which shows an identical button with the name Bland under it...
https://sites.google.com/site/liverybut ... me/griffin
It's last picture at the bottom of the page.
I like the name Dugdale better than Bland anyway
https://sites.google.com/site/liverybut ... me/griffin
It's last picture at the bottom of the page.
I like the name Dugdale better than Bland anyway
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Re: Livery buttons
It seems that the Bland family used a similar crest...but without the "cross moline" on it... Click Here
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