The Early Military Button project
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Hi Tinner & Derfel
First Tinner, sadly yours is not military but Post Office with the letters GPO and Kings Crown makes it 1902-52.
Derfel, first of yours is the the Northampton Yeomanry and more specifically the Royal Kettering Troop. They were raised in 1830 and disbanded in 1873. This appears to be the gilded type that appeared on their uniform from c1860. Its actually a better image than the one I have online so if its OK I will use your improved image please?
The second one is to 83rd Regt of Foot and being silvered is likely to be an officers version as other ranks wore pewter at this time. Date wise this is the second pattern to the 83rd and design comes in c1810 and lasts until around 1830. Through later amalgamation with the 86ththey became the Royal Irish Rifles.
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First Tinner, sadly yours is not military but Post Office with the letters GPO and Kings Crown makes it 1902-52.
Derfel, first of yours is the the Northampton Yeomanry and more specifically the Royal Kettering Troop. They were raised in 1830 and disbanded in 1873. This appears to be the gilded type that appeared on their uniform from c1860. Its actually a better image than the one I have online so if its OK I will use your improved image please?
The second one is to 83rd Regt of Foot and being silvered is likely to be an officers version as other ranks wore pewter at this time. Date wise this is the second pattern to the 83rd and design comes in c1810 and lasts until around 1830. Through later amalgamation with the 86ththey became the Royal Irish Rifles.
Hope that helps
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Thanks for the ID, you are welcome to use the photo
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Hi,
I usually have a knack of finding different and unusual things and here is my first "old" military button allbeit broken. I've wanted one of these for a long time and I think "if I'm right" it's a button of the 60th foot which was largely based in the US and was involved in the war of independence. Although if I'm wrong I'm sure someone can correct me.
It's not a great pic but if required I can supply a better one at some point.
I usually have a knack of finding different and unusual things and here is my first "old" military button allbeit broken. I've wanted one of these for a long time and I think "if I'm right" it's a button of the 60th foot which was largely based in the US and was involved in the war of independence. Although if I'm wrong I'm sure someone can correct me.
It's not a great pic but if required I can supply a better one at some point.
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Hi CL
Yes its to the 60th Regt of Foot which was from 1757-1815 The 60th (Royal American) Regt of Foot. After the Royal Warrant of 1768 commanded that units add the numbers to their buttons this is the third known type to this regiment. Its likely to date circa 1780-1790 and is an other ranks issue being made in pewter.
Quite an unusual unit to see thanks for posting it
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Yes its to the 60th Regt of Foot which was from 1757-1815 The 60th (Royal American) Regt of Foot. After the Royal Warrant of 1768 commanded that units add the numbers to their buttons this is the third known type to this regiment. Its likely to date circa 1780-1790 and is an other ranks issue being made in pewter.
Quite an unusual unit to see thanks for posting it
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Re: The Early Military Button project
here you go mate, not sure if its military or not...possibly Royal Irish?....standard tombac style button, pic of reverse if needed.
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Re: The Early Military Button project
I found this one last year in an East Sussex field:
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Hi Pops & Chris
Pops the button appears to be based upon the 18th Regt of Foot (The Royal Irish) of the style they used from around 1800-1881. That said all the patterns I can find have the number 18 below the harp. A lot of this kind of style though was used as local Irish patriotic pieces by wealthy landowners in much the same way we see on livery buttons. I will forward it on though in case any of my colleagues can add more.
Chris the Sussex Volunteers button is very nice. The unit using that name dates c1803- until 1808. They were a failry large unit based in Chichester, does it have any back mark by chance? I have a much poorer version on my website so if its OK with you could I use your image and replace my current one?
Hope that helps a bit
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Pops the button appears to be based upon the 18th Regt of Foot (The Royal Irish) of the style they used from around 1800-1881. That said all the patterns I can find have the number 18 below the harp. A lot of this kind of style though was used as local Irish patriotic pieces by wealthy landowners in much the same way we see on livery buttons. I will forward it on though in case any of my colleagues can add more.
Chris the Sussex Volunteers button is very nice. The unit using that name dates c1803- until 1808. They were a failry large unit based in Chichester, does it have any back mark by chance? I have a much poorer version on my website so if its OK with you could I use your image and replace my current one?
Hope that helps a bit
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Here's a pic of the back. There does appear to be some legend but nothing that I can make out! You are welcome to use the image(s) on your website.blue_yeti wrote:Hi Pops & Chris
Pops the button appears to be based upon the 18th Regt of Foot (The Royal Irish) of the style they used from around 1800-1881. That said all the patterns I can find have the number 18 below the harp. A lot of this kind of style though was used as local Irish patriotic pieces by wealthy landowners in much the same way we see on livery buttons. I will forward it on though in case any of my colleagues can add more.
Chris the Sussex Volunteers button is very nice. The unit using that name dates c1803- until 1808. They were a failry large unit based in Chichester, does it have any back mark by chance? I have a much poorer version on my website so if its OK with you could I use your image and replace my current one?
Hope that helps a bit
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Thanks Chris, sods law its to badly worn to get manufacturer but thats the way it goes!!
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Cheers mate....you're a star
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Jif
A few pages back you posted a Scottish find with the letters FMVR that I could not ID. I now believe it is to the Fife Mounted Rifles Volunteers c1860-1870.
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A few pages back you posted a Scottish find with the letters FMVR that I could not ID. I now believe it is to the Fife Mounted Rifles Volunteers c1860-1870.
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Re: The Early Military Button project
One for the Yeti..
I think the number 16 button is actually number 91, and its "91st of Foot Argylishire Regiment 1900-20" any thoughts....
you can just see the crown above the 91...
James..
I think the number 16 button is actually number 91, and its "91st of Foot Argylishire Regiment 1900-20" any thoughts....
you can just see the crown above the 91...
James..
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Re: The Early Military Button project
Hi James
The button dates earlier than you suggested, this style is in use for other ranks from 1855-1871, for officers 1855-1863, I see Deepseeker has kindly supplied you a link with some unit history but always happy to fill in more if you want anything adding.
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The button dates earlier than you suggested, this style is in use for other ranks from 1855-1871, for officers 1855-1863, I see Deepseeker has kindly supplied you a link with some unit history but always happy to fill in more if you want anything adding.
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