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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:13 pm 
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Any id would be greatly appreciated... :g50: found within the Winchester area, Hampshire

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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:52 am 
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arfrape wrote:
Hi,
A mate of mine found this today in N Glos area, seems very unusual to me, unlike the usual crested buttons I find anyway but I have faith that team Kev/Dave will sort it!!

I've hijacked our club forum for the photo so unable to re-shoot it, however we have a club meeting tomorrow night so can ask to borrow it for better shots if you feel it's necessary and will help to ID.

Thanks in advance, Andy

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I've turned it the right way up so it's easier to ID. :g62:
It's an unmarried woman's livery button, and the quartered Arms on it were probably her fathers, but he probably had them on a shield shaped more like a shield than a lozenge....



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:16 am 
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This livery button appears to be a flat, coin like disk. No back mark but a central shank mark.
Found in N Norfolk.


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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:04 am 
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DiOz wrote:
arfrape wrote:
Hi,
A mate of mine found this today in N Glos area, seems very unusual to me, unlike the usual crested buttons I find anyway but I have faith that team Kev/Dave will sort it!!

I've hijacked our club forum for the photo so unable to re-shoot it, however we have a club meeting tomorrow night so can ask to borrow it for better shots if you feel it's necessary and will help to ID.

Thanks in advance, Andy

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I've turned it the right way up so it's easier to ID. :g62:
It's an unmarried woman's livery button, and the quartered Arms on it were probably her fathers, but he probably had them on a shield shaped more like a shield than a lozenge....


Thanks very much for the information Dave - very much appreciated and I will pass it on :g50: :g50:


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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:12 pm 
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Any id would be greatly appreciated... :g50: found within the Winchester area, Hampshire.

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These families had the same or similar crest... Click Here ...the KINGSMILL family is in Hampshire.



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:33 pm 
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This livery button appears to be a flat, coin like disk. No back mark but a central shank mark.
Found in N Norfolk.
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It looks like an East India Company button... Click Here



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:51 pm 
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DiOz wrote:
lee greagsbey wrote:
Any id would be greatly appreciated... :g50: found within the Winchester area, Hampshire.

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These families had the same or similar crest... Click Here ...the KINGSMILL family is in Hampshire.


Much appreciated DiOz... :g50:

It looks like it belonged to these fellas then...

https://chewtonmendiphistory.wordpress. ... kingsmill/



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
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Thanks for the ID's DiOz.


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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:46 pm 
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lee greagsbey wrote:
DiOz wrote:
lee greagsbey wrote:
Any id would be greatly appreciated... :g50: found within the Winchester area, Hampshire.
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These families had the same or similar crest... Click Here ...the KINGSMILL family is in Hampshire.

Much appreciated DiOz... :g50:

It looks like it belonged to these fellas then...

https://chewtonmendiphistory.wordpress. ... kingsmill/

:g50:



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:42 am 
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arfrape wrote:
DiOz wrote:
arfrape wrote:
Hi,
A mate of mine found this today in N Glos area, seems very unusual to me, unlike the usual crested buttons I find anyway but I have faith that team Kev/Dave will sort it!!

I've hijacked our club forum for the photo so unable to re-shoot it, however we have a club meeting tomorrow night so can ask to borrow it for better shots if you feel it's necessary and will help to ID.

Thanks in advance, Andy

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I've turned it the right way up so it's easier to ID. :g62:
It's an unmarried woman's livery button, and the quartered Arms on it were probably her fathers, but he probably had them on a shield shaped more like a shield than a lozenge....


Thanks very much for the information Dave - very much appreciated and I will pass it on :g50: :g50:

Her surname would have been COLMORE or CREGOE-COLMORE. :g50:

The quartered Arms on the button are on a shield on a CREGOE-COLMORE family memorial gravestone, in St. Mary's churchyard in Charlton Kings in Gloucestershire...
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Here's a large pic that shows what's on the gravestone... Click Here

Family info... Click Here



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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
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Wow Dave, that's just fascinating - to tie it down to a local family is superb - with your permission can I pass it on to the Charlton Kings heritage group - they may additional local records that may help tell the story associated with this otherwise overlooked button find :g38: :g38:


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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
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Three livery buttons turned up today. North Norfolk.


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 Post subject: Re: Livery buttons
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chasm_norwich wrote:
Three livery buttons turned up today. North Norfolk.

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Families with a similar crest... Click Here

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This crest is apparently unique to the DAWES family... Click Here
There was a DAWES family with the same crest in Stowmarket in Suffolk.

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