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Re: Lead bag and cloth seals

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Found today South Newbald, East Yorkshire
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Re: Lead bag and cloth seals

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Thanks Dave - these are cow ear tags from animals imported from Holland! - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... g2_page=47 and the page before.
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StuE wrote:Thanks Dave - these are cow ear tags from animals imported from Holland! - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... g2_page=47 and the page before.
Thanks StuE :g50: You learn something new everyday I could have sworn it was a bagseal :g58:

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Re: Lead bag and cloth seals

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Hi Stu

A couple of seals this morning from Lincolnshire. Any clues and any good for the database? :g50:
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That top one is interesting - have you any ideas what that symbol is? - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... emId=22911
Any chance of easing the bent rivet lobe open on the bottom one - looks to be something stamped on it (the writer of this suggestion bears no responsibility for any damage caused :g64: )
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Hi Stu. No idea really what the symbol is............double-ended arrow? :g43:

I have opened the second one and there are letters on it............I will post pics later.

Meanwhile, had another one this morning......... :g50:
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Ah I know what that one is straight away - a London Dyers' Guild seal - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1563 Yours could be 1619?
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Found today in East Yorkshire 17.54 mm diameter x 5.97 mm thick.
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Hi Stu
This is the earlier seal with the rivet lobe opened up. Just the letters WF and some scroll work as far as I can see............. :g50:
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Thanks Dave - it's a Prussian customs seal - see bottom of this page - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... g2_page=71

Thanks Tom - you don't think it could be a lion or some other quadruped beneath the WF ?
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StuE wrote:Thanks Dave - it's a Prussian customs seal - see bottom of this page - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... g2_page=71

Thanks Tom - you don't think it could be a lion or some other quadruped beneath the WF ?
Just had a closer look and it is definitely a lion facing left..........damn you have good eyes.............. :shock:
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And I'm watching you all when you think about hedging a bag seal ;) - http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.ph ... emId=22914
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Thanks Stu..........this is a new site I have and they have all come from an area about 100m square.............maybe something significant going on?....... :g43:
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tomredmayne wrote:Thanks Stu..........this is a new site I have and they have all come from an area about 100m square.............maybe something significant going on?....... :g43:
Let's hope so. Don't know if you know Nasher but he has a field in Hertfordshire that turns up loads of great quality cloth seals - we still haven't worked out why??
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Re: Lead bag and cloth seals

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What would be the approximate date for these seals Stu? I know one is dated about 1619 but the others?.......it would help put them into context thanks..... :g50:
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